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Post by Xyz » Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:12 am

Maybe the fact that && is a new feature could be the solution? Where reusing the previous instrument would retrigger the arp and using && should continue it
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Post by Shywolf » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:09 pm

So, as of 0.5.0b5, some of the VRC7 effect inconsistencies I noted back here have been fixed, while some haven't been. List:

- (3xx) effect doesn't continue on note-cut (both in-tracker and .nsf export)
- (0xy) in tracker, effect continues on note-cut, but buggy in .nsf export
- (1xx/2xx) in tracker, effects continue on note-cut, but don't in .nsf export
- (Qxy/Rxy) in tracker, effects don't continue on note-release, but do in .nsf export
- (Qxy/Rxy) in tracker, effects don't continue on note-cut; in .nsf export, Qxy is buggy, while Rxy continues properly

Anyway, keep up the good work, jsr!
EDIT: typos

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Post by ollaxe » Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:22 pm

> HertzDevil wrote:The 0xy effect resets its phase from 0.4.5 beta 1 to 0.5.0 beta 2. As a more concise example, there will be no arpeggios at all in this pattern:

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> `ROW 00 : C-3 00 . 047 F01
> ROW 01 : C-3 00 . ... ...
> ROW 02 : C-3 00 . ... D00`
> This is due to IaTM. In general there is no consensus over whether 0xy should reset the phase on trigger, but for other trackers their respective arpeggio effect usually resets their phase whenever used, because in these trackers the arpeggio is cancelled by simply not using the effect at all (that is, they must be manually continued with an arpeggio effect with zero parameter). I am not sure why it was removed in 0.5.0 beta 3.

I really hope he makes it so it is like it was before, or at least let the user decide which one they want to use for each song. The arpeggios in the song I'm working on right now doesn't really work with the new 0xy behaviour.
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Post by Stratelier » Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:20 am

> ollaxe wrote:The arpeggios in the song I'm working on right now doesn't really work with the new 0xy behaviour.

Yeah, breaking changes are never cool (especially since, in this case, there is almost no workaround for it). I remember seeing one personally between 0.4.2 and 0.4.3, but it got fixed in 0.4.4 so....
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Post by Raijin » Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:50 am

jsr, I haven't thanked you yet for hearing my request about changing pitch without retriggering the envelope, so thank you very much!
About that though, I can't seem to use it. I read you switched the key to 'H', but for me, hitting that key inputs a 'G#' note. I am using the FastTracker II layout. Perhaps making it customizable would be best after all?
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Post by Dr. Merio » Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:52 am

Try hitting that key on the instrument column and it should work.
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Post by Raijin » Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:59 am

Wow... I literally just talked about that in the irc, and lo and behold...
Sorry, please disregard my previous post.
I was under the impression I had to use it in the note column. Well still, many thanks again, jsr!
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Post by Xyz » Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:06 am

I have not been downloading each re-release of the beta so I can't pinpoint which one did this, but a functionality that's been removed is the ability to play the hold instrument without having defined an instrument previously.
download/file.php?id=542
This worked on the first release and it no longer plays sound.
[edit: elaboration as a result of an irc convo]
Beta5 Rel1

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`Case: Use && in channel after a defined instrument
Result: !!!Ignore instrument's volume sequence and hold volume as if was blank (bug)
Hold arp sequence
Hold pitch sequence
Hold hi-pitch sequence
Hold duty cycle sequence
Case: Use && in channel after a blank instrument
Result: Hold volume as if blank
Hold arp as if blank
Hold pitch as if blank
Hold hi-pitch as if blank
Hold duty cycle as if blank
Case: Use && in a channel despite having never used an instrument
Result: Hold volume as if blank
Hold arp as if blank
Hold pitch as if blank
Hold hi-pitch as if blank
Hold duty cycle as if blank`
Beta5 Rel5

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`Case: Use && in channel after a defined instrument
Result: !!!Hold volume sequence (fixed)
Hold arp sequence
Hold pitch sequence
Hold hi-pitch sequence
Hold duty cycle sequence
Case: Use && in channel after a blank instrument
Result: Hold volume as if blank
Hold arp as if blank
Hold pitch as if blank
Hold hi-pitch as if blank
Hold duty cycle as if blank
Case: Use && in a channel despite having never used an instrument
Result: !!!Output silence`
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`Case: Use && in channel after a defined instrument
Result: Hold volume sequence (fixed)
Hold arp sequence
Hold pitch sequence
Hold hi-pitch sequence
Hold duty cycle sequence
Case: Use && in channel after a blank instrument
Result: Hold volume as if blank
Hold arp as if blank
Hold pitch as if blank
Hold hi-pitch as if blank
Hold duty cycle as if blank
Case: Use && in a channel despite having never used an instrument
Result: Hold volume as if blank
Hold arp as if blank
Hold pitch as if blank
Hold hi-pitch as if blank
Hold duty cycle as if blank`
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Post by Roflo » Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:12 pm

When changing the effect type or entering a new one in the effect column it would be nice if the cursor does not move down.
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Post by PostApocolyptica » Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:19 pm

> Roflo wrote:When changing the effect type or entering a new one in the effect column it would be nice if the cursor does not move down.

Change "Step" to 0, or change your "Pattern edit style" to "ModPlug Tracker" in the Configuration.
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